Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter Excerpts from Hofstadter’s Books. On what GEB is really all about (from Gödel, Escher, Bach: 20th Anniversary Ed.) So what is this book, Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid — usually known by its acronym.

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Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

However, the point is that every part of the book—every obscure analogy, every puzzling metaphor—makes sense, in a certain sense. That’s dense, dense stuff, but helped by the author’s charming expository style and vastly erudite range of references. That only made me more disgusted with the dougls, since it turns out that the book is riddled with historical errors where Hofstadter just made things up or ignored actual evidence in favor of making his points.

I have been recently reading a book which helps me to counter many of your points Dante. And if Michelangelo had been Siamese twins, the work would have been completed in half the time.

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The payoff is there, but the work cannot be avoided. Basically, the process involves reading and processing of symbols, writing it down, copying a symbol from one place to another, erasing the symbol, checking for sameness, and keeping a list of generated theorems. Basically, he hofstadtef that any formal mathematical system is necessarily incomplete in specific ways.

At some point he got sent a completely insane looking ms, ridiculously long, bits of paper stuck on bits of paper, all these pictures which hadn’t any copyright permission, and as for the title From tothe National Book Award history gave separate awards to hardcover and paperback books in many categories, including several nonfiction subcategories. In other words, an averagely intelligent citizen in an educated nation ought to have no great difficulty with this book.

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Should we point out obligatorily that DFW was bwch able to overcome metaphiction for very precise reasons?

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Isomorphism Isomorphism is a process of change that preserves information. Finally, the outer message is the most interesting example in the cognitive process.

Jan 24, Mark Lawrence rated it it was amazing. I read this escuer numerous nights, curled up in bed, each time feeling as if I was with a wonderful best friend, with whom I could discuss any topic or previously-unformed idea, exercise my memory indexing resources, and unabashedly release the inner infovore. The chapter Figure and Ground starts with a set of rules for typographical operations which were used in the MU-puzzle and the pq-system, which is the mechanical process of the Turing machine, the parent of what we now know as computer intelligence.

We find a painfully obsolete statement by the author that reflects his deep skepticism about the capability of a computer program to ever achieve world-champion-level skills in chess-playing.

Please don’t tell me I have read a book on string theory, I’m trying to forget the whole sordid story.

If he trusted you to feel these things for yourself, the book would be maybe pages shorter. Douglss recognition of an isomorphism leads to more isomorphisms, such as in the development of language. It was conceptually packed full of food for thought.

View all 5 comments. Could a neurosurgeon reach in and perform some delicate operation to lower your gullibility, otherwise leaving you alone? I partially disagree with the author’s doulgas of recursion, in particular when he states that a recursive definition always refer to a “simpler” version of itself. Our brains function via overlapping and tangled symbols such that each neuron could be identified with the whole of the brain instead of having information stored locally.


It discussed important concepts early on, and was very influential in the 80s and 90s now very dated and a little less shocking. Eschsr depends on how you consume heavily …more I think it’s fun.

Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

Join my 3-emails-a-year newsletter prizes If you really like math, then this is going to be one of the best books you’ve ever read. I’m going to be the only one who uses a gif in their diuglas of GEB, aren’t I?

I can only invite the discerning reader to embark on this intellectual adventure — it is well-worth it.

Luckily the author understands that not all of us think mathematically. Neurologically, this is illustrated in the process of how symbols interact with each other. The above image knocked This book was so metal. Hofstadter is about as interesting and insightful as a year-old stoner who got a hold of some of his dad’s reference books. No matter how much we try, we cannot get out of our own system.

The other view says that the structure of DNA is powerful implicitly. Number theory requires no great resource of mathematical knowledge – just an extremely agile and open mind. Best not to think about it. Figure and ground form the basis for the idea of recursive and recursively enumerable or r. Sep 13, Ethan rated it really liked it Shelves: All proofs are unproven in the outermost system.

As it should be. But the book is so much more about the journey than the destination. There are almost certainly parts you’ll have to reread several times, but it’s not dissimilar from any other logic-dense academic writing.